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Andrew Sullivan warns: Dems are being retarded on immigration; will lose again:

libs, you're thoughts on his observations here? Andrew Su...
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Rampart
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*farts cum*
IANAL
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He just delivered a poz load in the Dems mouths
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Buck "The Club" Paulette
  10/21/17
Yep, he just delivered a poz load in the Dems mouths
honiara
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great article
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ActivePooter
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The real danger is if Dems start saying that they "hear...
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"retraining for the jobs of the 21st century" p...
your comely bro
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ActivePooter
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they are too far down the SJW rabbit hole to even say this. ...
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true, because so much of their base has been worked into a b...
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you mean accepting the legitimacy of hate and white supremac...
POTUS Kobach forcibly ejecting the last DREAMER
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There’s some truth to it but it’s ironic to hear him say it....
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What I think might happen is, if Catalonia succeeds in estab...
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TEXIT!
proles in Owsley County, KY partying in the street
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What I too, think might happen is, if Catalonia succeeds in ...
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Kim_Jelly
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At some point this whole country needs to have a come to Jes...
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guy with a purely scientific interest in gay porn
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dems almost have a supermajority from importing foreigners.....
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this is obvious to everyone with an IQ > 90. yet, the ent...
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Jeromulus
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NAFTA was death to good blue collar jobs, despite what Clint...
I wish you a MAGA Christmas
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You sound pretty racist
Buck "The Club" Paulette
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and think of the millions of secondary jobs lost: the waitre...
peterman (retired)
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Not sure what you're trying to say here but I'm gonna go ahe...
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*boomer fuming over the concept that work is not worth the e...
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brave little poaster
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it's not just about labor anymore, it's about having a swell...
the challenge of a heterosexual relationship
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NOTHING will come between libs and wanting to exterminate th...
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Yep NOTHING will come between libs and wanting to exterminat...
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Here is Dylan Matthews, also in Vox, expressing the emerging...
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when can I see these people at the guillotines? Jfc
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reminder - smart conservatives should be provoking dems into...
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recall the Pied Piper strategy that HRC's campaign cited for...
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POTUS Kobach forcibly ejecting the last DREAMER
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i'm happy to stand behind this statement.
Consuela
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sullivan has been harping on the idea for a while that certa...
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Date: October 21st, 2017 10:57 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


libs, you're thoughts on his observations here?

Andrew Sullivan: The Issue That Could Lose the Next Election for Democrats

I don’t believe it’s disputable at this point that the most potent issue behind the rise of the far right in America and Europe is mass immigration. It’s a core reason that Trump is now president; it’s why the AfD is now the third-biggest party in the German, yes, German, parliament; it’s why Austria’s new chancellor won by co-opting much of the far right’s agenda on immigration; it’s why Britain is attempting (and currently failing) to leave the EU; it’s why Marine Le Pen won a record number of votes for her party in France this spring.

A critical moment, in retrospect, came with Angela Merkel’s 2015 decision to import over a million Syrian refugees into the heart of Europe. I’ve no doubt her heart was in the right place, but the political naïveté was stunning. How distant from the lives and views of most people does an elite have to be to see nothing to worry about from such drastic social and cultural change? Michael Brendan Dougherty elegantly explains here the dynamic that followed. There are now new borders and fences going up all over Europe, as a response to Merkel’s blithe misjudgment.

You would think that parties of the center-left would grapple with this existential threat to their political viability. And some have. One reason Britain’s Labour Party has done well in the last couple of years is that it has recognized the legitimacy of the issue. During the Brexit referendum, their leader, Jeremy Corbyn, expressed ambivalence toward remaining in the EU, careful not to lose his working-class base to the Europhobic right, recognizing the fears so many of his own supporters had about the impact of mass immigration on their lives, jobs, and culture.

Even someone as leftist as Corbyn chose to be a pragmatist, trying to gain power, rather than a purist who might otherwise condemn his own voters as deplorable. And this is one reason why I have dwindling hopes that the Democratic Party will be able to defeat Trump in 2020. Instead of adjusting to this new reality, and listening to the electorate, the Dems have moved ever farther to the left, and are controlled by ever-radicalizing activists. There’s a nuanced, smart — and shockingly honest — piece in Vox by Dara Lind about this. Money quote:

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"For Democrats, it’s been a simple calculus. Democrats’ attempts at “tough love” centrism didn’t win them any credit across the aisle, while an increasingly empowered immigrant-rights movement started calling them to task for the adverse consequences of enforcement policies. Democrats learned to ignore the critics on the right they couldn’t please, and embrace the critics on the left who they could."

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Lind is right about the perverse politics of Obama’s centrism. He ramped up enforcement on the border and deportations … only to get nothing from the GOP in return. The right dismissed his toughness, while the left resented it. But it’s also true that Obama never truly bragged about his tough-on-illegal-immigrants stance, or campaigned on it, or emphasized it, when addressing the country as a whole. He couldn’t bring himself to boast about deportations, which is to his credit. But it’s hard to use tougher enforcement as leverage for a pathway to citizenship for those already here when you keep silent about it.

The activist reaction — a rejection of most immigration enforcement or, with sanctuary cities, an open defiance of it — just makes this worse and renders a sane immigration compromise even more remote. Sure, the Latino activists are not the most to blame. The GOP base spent the last few years resisting any measure that could balance tougher border security and law enforcement with a path to citizenship. But when a glimmer of hope emerged recently with a potential Schumer-Pelosi-Trump deal on DACA, the Dreamer activists united with Stephen Miller to kill it. Lind spells out the state of play:

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"Democrats in 2017, in general, tend to criticize the use of immigration enforcement, and tend to side with those accused of violating immigration law, as a broad matter of principle beyond opposing the particular actions of the administration … Democrats are no longer as willing to attack “illegal immigration” as a fundamental problem anymore."

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This is, to be blunt, political suicide. The Democrats’ current position seems to be that the Dreamer parents who broke the law are near heroes, indistinguishable from the children they brought with them; and their rhetoric is very hard to distinguish, certainly for most swing voters, from a belief in open borders. In fact, the Democrats increasingly seem to suggest that any kind of distinction between citizens and noncitizens is somehow racist. You could see this at the last convention, when an entire evening was dedicated to Latinos, illegal and legal, as if the rule of law were largely irrelevant. Hence the euphemism “undocumented” rather than “illegal.” So the stage was built, lit, and set for Trump.

He still tragically owns that stage. What Merkel did for the AfD, the Democrats are in danger of doing for the Trump wing of the GOP. The most powerful thing Trump said in the campaign, I’d argue, was: “If you don’t have borders, you don’t have a country.” And the Democrats had no answer, something that millions of Americans immediately saw. They still formally favor enforcement of immigration laws, but rhetorically, they keep signaling the opposite.

Here is Dylan Matthews, also in Vox, expressing the emerging liberal consensus: “Personally, I think any center-left party worth its salt has to be deeply committed to egalitarianism, not just for people born in the U.S. but for everyone … It means treating people born outside the U.S. as equals … And it means a strong presumption in favor of open immigration.” Here’s Zack Beauchamp, a liberal friend of mine: “What if I told you that immigration restrictionism is and always has been racist?” Borders themselves are racist? Seriously?

The entire concept of a nation whose citizens solely determine its future — the core foundation for any viable democracy at all — is now deemed by many left-liberals to be a function of bigotry. This is the kind of madness that could keep them from power indefinitely.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/10/the-issue-that-could-lose-the-next-election-for-democrats.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34498722)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:01 PM
Author: (retired) (retirado) (pensionato) (gepensioneerd)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34498768)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:11 PM
Author: Rampart



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34498856)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:14 PM
Author: IANAL

*farts cum*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34498889)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:15 PM
Author: peterman (retired)

He just delivered a poz load in the Dems mouths

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34498911)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:29 PM
Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499028)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 1:02 AM
Author: honiara

Yep, he just delivered a poz load in the Dems mouths

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499779)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:15 PM
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great article

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34498914)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:19 PM
Author: ActivePooter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34498946)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:26 PM
Author: H.R. Puffendorf

The real danger is if Dems start saying that they "hear the concerns about immigration," and they "understand the economic hardship a lot of people are facing."

They don't actually intend to limit immigration (that is not an option), but they might try to feign sympathy, and then make up some garbage about "retraining for the jobs of the 21st century" and pull off an election here and there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499011)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:29 PM
Author: your comely bro

"retraining for the jobs of the 21st century"

people would not fall for that line.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499023)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 5:27 AM
Author: ActivePooter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34500326)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:45 PM
Author: proles in Owsley County, KY partying in the street

they are too far down the SJW rabbit hole to even say this. That's a 90's Dem line.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499146)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 2:48 AM
Author: .,.,.,,,.,,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34500140)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 5:28 AM
Author: ActivePooter

true, because so much of their base has been worked into a bloodlust frenzy by media/academia propaganda--that base would never accept even such a small concession

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34500327)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 6:51 PM
Author: POTUS Kobach forcibly ejecting the last DREAMER

you mean accepting the legitimacy of hate and white supremacy? you're damn right those proud WOC and genderqueers will not stand for FUCKING NAZIS IN THE WHITE HOUSE AAAAIEEEE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34504682)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:28 PM
Author: Dr. donny thunder (Moon mission confirmed)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499016)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:51 PM
Author: ''"'"""''''




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499225)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:37 PM
Author: Cock McStuffins

There’s some truth to it but it’s ironic to hear him say it. Maybe he should deport himself first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499077)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:38 PM
Author: .,.,....,,......,,,...,,..,.....,,.....,..,,,,.,..


What I think might happen is, if Catalonia succeeds in establishing itself independent from Spain, you will see a push for predominantly white areas of the U.S. to secede from the diverse, lib infested parts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499083)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:45 PM
Author: proles in Owsley County, KY partying in the street

TEXIT!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499153)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 1:04 AM
Author: honiara

What I too, think might happen is, if Catalonia succeeds in establishing itself independent from Spain, you will see a push for predominantly white areas of the U.S. to secede from the diverse, lib infested parts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499795)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 1:21 AM
Author: Kim_Jelly



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499920)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:39 PM
Author: ..............;...................


At some point this whole country needs to have a come to Jesus moment that labor is increasingly less valuable, so importing more people (especially low skilled ones) is suicide.

Immigration made sense when hard work was needed to build this country. It doesn't make sense in a world where there are literally 2,000 billionaires (with a B). A country's wealth does not come from hard work, it comes from capital.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499098)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:41 PM
Author: guy with a purely scientific interest in gay porn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499120)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:43 PM
Author: .,.,....,,......,,,...,,..,.....,,.....,..,,,,.,..


dems almost have a supermajority from importing foreigners...they are so close why would they stop NOW?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499134)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 2:48 AM
Author: .,.,.,,,.,,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34500141)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:43 PM
Author: Miki Dora (old John L.)

this is obvious to everyone with an IQ > 90. yet, the entire (((political mainstream))) insists on open borders. odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499136)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:45 PM
Author: Jeromulus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499150)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:45 PM
Author: I wish you a MAGA Christmas

NAFTA was death to good blue collar jobs, despite what Clinton and Gore promised.

Within ten years, and probably sooner, the number one blue collar job for men -- truck driving -- will be done by self-driving vehicles.

Why are we importing millions of unskilled people?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499155)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:46 PM
Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette

You sound pretty racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499166)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:52 PM
Author: peterman (retired)

and think of the millions of secondary jobs lost: the waitresses at the diners, the lot lizards

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499234)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 1:30 AM
Author: brave little poaster

Not sure what you're trying to say here but I'm gonna go ahead and guess you're a bigot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499987)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:47 PM
Author: nihilist star wars

*boomer fuming over the concept that work is not worth the effort*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499179)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 1:29 AM
Author: brave little poaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499979)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 6:49 PM
Author: the challenge of a heterosexual relationship (President Mulatto Manslave)

it's not just about labor anymore, it's about having a swelling base of consumers to lap up all the garbage media and technotoys in order to prop up are ponziconomy. if we don't have population growth, how can we expect faceberg and apple to keep posting quarterly gains?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34504661)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 11:48 PM
Author: Ed Hendrick

NOTHING will come between libs and wanting to exterminate the white race from the north american continent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499186)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 1:05 AM
Author: honiara

Yep NOTHING will come between libs and wanting to exterminate the white race from the north american continent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499809)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 1:06 AM
Author: .,.,....,,......,,,...,,..,.....,,.....,..,,,,.,..




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499812)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 1:20 AM
Author: Kim_Jelly



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499916)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 1:30 AM
Author: brave little poaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34499990)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 2:47 AM
Author: .,.,.,,,.,,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.


Here is Dylan Matthews, also in Vox, expressing the emerging liberal consensus: “Personally, I think any center-left party worth its salt has to be deeply committed to egalitarianism, not just for people born in the U.S. but for everyone … It means treating people born outside the U.S. as equals … And it means a strong presumption in favor of open immigration.” Here’s Zack Beauchamp, a liberal friend of mine: “What if I told you that immigration restrictionism is and always has been racist?” Borders themselves are racist? Seriously?

Just LOL at these literal maniacs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34500138)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 2:51 AM
Author: brave little poaster

when can I see these people at the guillotines? Jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34500145)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 6:00 AM
Author: ActivePooter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34500358)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 4:31 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


reminder - smart conservatives should be provoking dems into taking more and more extreme stands on immigration. this is a popular vote LOSER for them - make them eat their own ideology.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34503590)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 4:33 PM
Author: I wish you a MAGA Christmas

recall the Pied Piper strategy that HRC's campaign cited for destroying the Republicans by promoting the candidacy of Donald J. Trump.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34503607)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 6:00 PM
Author: guy with a purely scientific interest in gay porn

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34504287)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 4:34 PM
Author: (retired) (retirado) (pensionato) (gepensioneerd)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34503608)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 4:39 PM
Author: Miki Dora (old John L.)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34503648)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 6:02 PM
Author: Consuela

this is a stupid article. hillary, who was a historically bad candidate, won the popular vote. democrats won't forget to campaign in or advertise in the rust belt next time. democrats will win every national election moving forward unless trump does something radical on immigration, which he has shown no signs of doing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34504316)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 6:52 PM
Author: POTUS Kobach forcibly ejecting the last DREAMER

Date: October 22nd, 2017 6:02 PM

Author: Consuela

this is a stupid article. hillary, who was a historically bad candidate, won the popular vote. democrats won't forget to campaign in or advertise in the rust belt next time. democrats will win every national election moving forward unless trump does something radical on immigration, which he has shown no signs of doing.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34504691)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 6:55 PM
Author: Consuela

i'm happy to stand behind this statement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34504720)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 7:01 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


sullivan has been harping on the idea for a while that certain issues can "radicalize" american whites into voting more en bloc for the GOP, and immigration is one such issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34504766)



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Date: October 22nd, 2017 6:54 PM
Author: tim cruise

it's also stupid because it mischaracterizes Obama's customs dept turning people away at the border as "deportation." we know what the most vanilla deportation of felonious illegals by ICE actually looks like now under Trump, and we never saw anything like that under Obama.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#34504703)



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Date: January 12th, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: Chemical Ali



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3771085&forum_id=2#35140915)



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Date: January 12th, 2018 8:37 PM
Author: Apex Predatory Lender



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